The Faithful Resistance

Welcome to the Hinge

What happens next with Christianity in America? Those who have been hurt by the church have a role to play.
We are in a “hinge” period- a time for reformation- where the old fades away and new forms of religious community are birthing. We don’t know what will be transitory and what will stick. But the brave are paving new paths; resilient communities popping up like mushrooms across the country.
This episode you’ll meet host Abbey, raised Evangelical; and others with similar backgrounds who are looking to create authentic Christian community. If you feel let down by the mainstream Christian church, or if you’re curious about church planting, or are interested in what it means to create a spiritually inclusive space, join us! This show will challenge everything we thought we knew about spirituality, community, and ourselves, on a journey toward a faith that truly resonates.
 
Music:
Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: One Dirty Sleeve, Basketliner, Green Carpet, Crumbtown, Floating Whist, Stephi

You'd Make a Great Pastor...'s Wife

Emily was a devout Evangelical girl, offered the highest of compliments - that she’d make a great Pastor’s Wife. Yet, she had a "lingering sin issue" that haunted her. She worked so hard to get rid of it, becoming a missionary, joining a Christian 12-step program, and finally, going to seminary.
We encounter moments of humor, vulnerability, and unexpected joy as Emily recounts her wild college days, navigates theological dilemmas, and finds liberation.
Her story is one of perseverance and radical authenticity. She wasn't going to give up on finding the truth, whatever that may be.
 
Music:
Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: A Burst of Light

But, How Do You Get Saved?

Meet Reverend Maggie Foote, a not-so-formal priest. Hailing from conservative Ohio, Maggie grew up in the Episcopal church and felt a pull toward ordained ministry from a young age. Contrasting with Emily’s story, Maggie’s journey of self-discovery is sweetly simple. Following normal growing pains, Maggie is able to flourish within her family and church.
Maggie shares some of the history and theology of this denomination and explains how change is made (or not made). Plus, she answers Abbey’s pressing Evangelical-style questions like: But… how do you get Saved??
Working alongside one another, Maggie and Emily weave their stories together. And Maggie begins to see Emily’s dream, a vibrant place of faith and inclusivity, for those too scared to step in their doors.
 
Music:
Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: The Big Ten

The Pilot: Sunday Night Live

Liturgy is freaky. It’s a barrier to entry but, there are things ex-evangelicals would also find attractive about the Episcopal Church. So, Emily decides to pilot a Sunday *night* service which will be more accessible than the standard morning version. Partnering with Reverend Maggie, they attempt to create a space where wanderers, the curious, and the jaded alike feel comfortable to explore. 
We’ll hear from folks who showed up to her Sunday Night Service, what brought them (back) to church, and why they kept coming. Until. Well, until this pilot comes to its end.
 
Music:
Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot sessions: Skyway, The Big Ten, Grumpalo, Kickstep, Basketliner, Floating Whist, Stephi, Blue Straggler
 

Saying Yes to the Mess

Emily bravely steps into the shoes of a church planter. (Eek!) We'll witness her first steps, gathering a supportive team, creating an official proposal, and juggling the chaos of life. The stakes are high, as it's been 45 years since a successful church has been planted in this diocese.
The ecclesiastical bureaucracy is daunting, and the terminology a bit icky. Yet, she finds the structure of the church's canons comforting, providing a path forward.
We listen in as Emily recruits potential launch team members and they make decisions, grappling with past experiences in organized religion— some shaped by pain and disappointment, others fueled by hope and healing.
As Emily transforms her dream into reality, the tension between established tradition and the desire for a new expression of faith becomes evident, adding layers of complexity to this new church’s origin story.
 
Artist mentioned: Audrey Assad
Music:
Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: Peacoat, A Little Powder, FasterFasterBrighter

The Fabulous Fallen

Who is this church for? This is the pivotal question Emily and her Launch Team begin to tackle. Brenna shares her own journey, one which highlights the reality of faith transitions, family dynamics, and the challenges faced by parents of LGBTQ children within the church.
Using each of their stories as a foundation, the team generates a list of “personas” — the disenfranchised evangelicals, the questioning—and often traumatized—Christians, and the LGBTQ community were at the forefront. They grapple with the idea of cultivating a church that doesn't just embrace its members but insists on respecting individual experiences and perspectives.
Ultimately, this episode serves as a powerful reminder that the task ahead is not just about creating a church—it’s about establishing a community that acknowledges the fullness of human experience, including trauma and joy. The Team must strive to shape an environment for those seeking solace after leaving spaces that felt more like cages than sanctuaries.
 
Gender Creative Child book by Diane Ehrensaft
Music:
Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: Two in the Back, Symphony in G Minor, Stephi, Town Market, Skyway

Small Wonder

"We are still hungry for spaces, rituals, and rhythms that will help us beat despair and recover wonder." – Debie Thomas
In this episode, the New Church team wrestles with writing a mission statement—and with it, a bigger question: Can we truly "recover wonder" in a space built not on perfection, but on patience, smallness, and honesty?
Team member Lizzie brings the concept of wonder to life through stories from her Catholic childhood and her evolving spiritual journey—from aspiring nun, to Evangelical missionary in the Middle East, to someone now embracing a humbler, more curious approach to faith.
As the team reflects together, a surprising truth emerges: even without a clearly defined mission, something is already binding this community—a quiet, shared hope.
Join us as we explore what holds us together, what wonder really means, and the story behind the unexpected name of this new church. It's a name that reaches back to the unlikely saints of Lizzie’s youth—and forward into the wild, mysterious path we’re walking now.
 
Article: Which Church is Dying? by Debie Thomas
Stlucyschurch.org
Music: Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: Two in the Back, Symphony in G Minor, Stephi, Town Market, Skyway

The Resistance Will Not Be Televised (or be on social media)

How do you advertise a church in a way that doesn’t trigger literally everyone? The St. Lucy’s team discusses initial efforts to get the word out, including how to use social media. They attempt to create a website that speaks to a diversity of visitors, and quickly discover that the whole thing is a big ol’ trigger factory. 
Reflecting on feedback about the website, Jen talks about "Sunday segregation", acknowledging the historical whiteness of the Episcopal Church, and sharing her own story growing up in a Chinese-American church. The shame of an early romantic entanglement, complicated by ethnic differences and religious pressures, leads to her first big faith crisis.
Eventually she discovers another option that offers this choral nerd newfound joy. Jen now wonders- should a church community meet all our social, cultural and spiritual needs? Is that the goal? As a mom of young kids, she’s exploring what it could look like to have “peeps” in different communities.
Church hurt and religious trauma know no cultural boundaries, so this new church should be diverse, reflecting the demographic makeup of its home in California. Tune in to think about how church can possibly feed our multifaceted souls.
 
Stlucyschurch.org
Music: Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: Gentle Son, In Passage, Throughput, Town Market, Taboret, These Times

Catch Me Feelin Dirty

The hard truth is that a church needs money to operate. But, is it possible to ask for money and not feel gross about it? Tune in to hear how the team attempted to build financial scaffolding for St. Lucys, inviting others into the vision, creating structures for visibility, and asking for help when they're out of their depth. Meet spreadsheet guy, Tommy, who shares his sketchy church experience, and ponders the idea of stewardship. 
Ever done fundraising that left you feelin dirty? Well, this team has some *mixed feelings* about the stuff  they've fundraised for in the past (ie. missionary work). Can they get past their past?
 
Stlucyschurch.org
Music:
Introduction: Kim Taylor: Like a Woman Can
Blue Dot Sessions: Deacon Will, Dear Myrtle, For We Shall Know Speed, Highway 104, Town Market, Picnic March, Pearly Jean, Come As You Are, Fold Over, Highride Chrome, Peacoat, Gentle Son,

Toil and Trouble

This is the messy middle: a church being born amid political turmoil, attacks on the vulnerable, and communities in despair.
The St. Lucy’s team navigates the turbulent climate in early 2025, leading to some reality checks. They face questions about how they can support those with religious trauma, those who are grieving, and those who are afraid. And do it all while processing their own grief and feelings of inadequacy.
As many seek solace, there is an increased demand for churches to not simply offer belonging but also, protection. Tune in for an intimate, unpolished conversation about what faithful resistance looks like today.
Links:
Martin Luther King Jr. “Loving Your Enemies” sermon
Intro Song: “It May Be Time to Close Your Eyes” Derek Webb
Executive Orders: “Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government”;  “Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation”; “Establishment of the White House Faith Office”; “Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias”
Data: Child Homelessness; Gender-Affirming Medications Among Transgender Adolescents in the US
“A Service of Prayer for the Nation Homily” Bishop Mariann Budde
House Resolution 59 - Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the sermon given by the Right Reverend Mariann Edgar Budde was a display of political activism and condemning its distorted message.
Book: “The Exvangelicals” by Sarah McCammon

Praying Shapes Believing

St Lucy’s is almost a church! But, what will a church service be like? In the final month of planning, the team learns what is required for an Episcopal Eucharistic Service. They discuss each of the 7 steps that provide structure, and wonder about the meaning behind each one. How do you create an experience that won't create in-groups and out-groups, but practices anyone can participate in?
Poking at implied power structures, this is about community more than perfection: flexible liturgy, homemade challah and thrifted cups, a table for offerings (and needs), and conversation instead of lecture. We fumble through the Book of Common Prayer, tinker with community created music, and discover how common practices have the power to quietly, subtly, reshape belief.
Stlucyschurch.org
 
Music: Kim Taylor: Like a Woman CanBlue Dot Sessions: Telly’s Place, Highway 104, Skyway, Silk and Silver, Etude 8 Dimitri, Deacon Will, Dippler, Quindi, Horizon Liner, Paramo Ocho
Resources:Book of Common Prayer, An Order for Celebrating the Holy EucharistEvolving Faith Podcast: Your Woke-Ness in Not Worship with Sandra Maria Van Opstal

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